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rocko
11-13-2007, 09:02 PM
Now this maybe a stupid question, so bare with me please:

If you go to this website:

http://www.akc.org/events/field_trials/retrievers/nrc/2007/monday.cfm


and watch the video clip of:

dog # 31. FC Two Rivers Lucky Willie - Handler: Dave Rorem

My question is....why does the handler wait so long to blow the whistle to stop the dog? The dog pratically ran over top of the bird......

Drew Good
11-13-2007, 09:37 PM
I seen that too Rocko and I am sure someone will correct me if I am wrong but since it was a mark and not a blind they wanted to see if the dog would return to the AOF on it's own. That way it would be marked down as a big hunt and not a handle. Hopefully one of our more experienced member's will jump in and comment on it......

Drew

rocko
11-14-2007, 12:43 PM
What is AOF?

Tollergirl
11-14-2007, 12:54 PM
Area of fall

Misty Marsh
11-14-2007, 04:28 PM
You would much rather have a big hunt than a handle at a field trial on a marking test.

Anna Scott
11-14-2007, 04:37 PM
Handling on a mark in a field trial can cost you big time, You may not(most likely will not)be called back to the next series depending on what the other dogs have done.

krakadawn
11-14-2007, 06:04 PM
It's usually the second handle in a National that eliminates you. Most first handles will keep you in.

captainjack
11-14-2007, 09:40 PM
I would expect that most experienced field trial judges would prefer a good handle to a big hunt. A big hunt indicates that the dog miss marked the bird as this suggests to me that the dog is hunting outside the area of the fall.
A good handle could be the result of a dog that has marked the bird, but has missed the bird due to a variety of reasons ie. wrong side of the wind, squared a ditch, over ran, etc. The handler gives the dog a chance to get the bird on its own, but handles to avoid the pitfalls of a big hunt.
At field trials, you see alot of dogs dropped because of the handle because they have given no evidence of a mark or the handler allows the dog to hunt all over the place and then decides to handle.
At a national it should take the second bad bird to drop it whether that be a big hunt out of the area of the fall or a handle. You will see double handles finish this national, but they will be good handles.
I may be wrong and that wouldn't be the first time!