Lean Mac

[Drew Good]

Hey Gang,

This might be a stupid question but is Ebonstars Lean Mac Still alive? The reason I ask is almost every litter posted on RTF has Lean Mac in the Pedigree but I have never seen a litter with him listed as the sire until today....

Someone posted a ad with him as the sire and I was just wondering if this was real or a fake.

Drew

[chocdog]

DD I am on the chat

[Drew Good]

Hey chocdog, I am in the chat now. As soon as I came in you left

Drew

[Drew Good]

Well acording to this page he passed away in Aug 0f 2002...

http://working-retriever.com/retrpast/ebonstar_lean_mac.html

here is the ad for the pups I was talking about....

http://www.retrievertraining.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=43011

Drew

[luvmylabs]

There was a limited amount of frozed semen from Lean Mac. Very expensive, with no guarantees. Not sure how much is left. Heard there was only a few vials.

Anne

[Kevin Hannah]

Hey Gang,

This might be a stupid question but is Ebonstars Lean Mac Still alive? The reason I ask is almost every litter posted on RTF has Lean Mac in the Pedigree but I have never seen a litter with him listed as the sire until today....

Someone posted a ad with him as the sire and I was just wondering if this was real or a fake.

Drew

He has passed Drew, I think that the reason you don't see a lot of ads for pups he sired is that these pups go for big dollars and are probably almost all presold.

[Kevin Hannah]

There was a limited amount of frozed semen from Lean Mac. Very expensive, with no guarantees. Not sure how much is left. Heard there was only a few vials.

Anne


I find that really suprising. With the dollars they demanded for stud fees I think if I owned the dog he would have been living at the sprem bank.

[3 black dogs]

It is hard to find a pedigree with out lean mac. Sherwin scott the owner has just bought another great dog I think you will see alot of soon, James Swanson of BC campained the dog last year and put 93 all age points on him in one year. His name is Seaside's One to Many (Ralph) he is a very good looking black male. In the latest issue of field trial news in reports that Mike Lardy ran him in an open in florida and Jamed and won the qual. You are going to see alot of this Great Canadian dog. I had the chance to run against him last year a couple times and he is a unbelivable marker and a alround great dog.

Chris

[Kevin Hannah]

His name is Seaside's One to Many (Ralph)
Chris

GREAT name:clap2:

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[ducksoup]

Sherwin Scott knows great Canadian dogs when he sees one -- if he does as well with Ralph as he did with Lean Mac he'll do very well -- last RTFN I saw had an ad from Sherwin Scott advertising Lean Mac as stud (frozen sperm only) and Maxx's Surprise, NFC son (both frozen and natural) -- then he had a separate ad as well for Ralph -- Lean Mac's record speaks for itself as all-time greatest producer as stud (partly because he was bred so often, but in my opinion mostly because of the genes -- his sire was an awesome dog) -- Drew, that puppy advertised is well bred; think they're asking $2500 US -- bitch is out of Quick (Candlewood's Rebel Ridge PDQ) -- both Kevin and I can tell you a bit about having Quick and Maxx (Lean Mac's call name) in the same pedigree -- in fact that's how I named my Maxx as his grandsires are Quick and Lean Mac (or Maxx), so he's registered as The Springwaters Quick To Maxx -- I believe Kevin's female has Lean Mac and Quick as grandsires too -- I'm a big fan of Lean Mac bloodlines and linebreeding in general -- an owner of a female littermate to my Maxx also has a male pup out of Lean Mac and QAA bitch (out of Quick's brother Hawkeye's Shadow) that's about a year old -- this pup is with Jim Van Engen (a very good young dog trainer out of Wisconsin) and doing extremely well -- the breeder is thinking of repeating this breeding one more time later this year and I'd love to get a female out of this litter -- but very pricey -- and long waiting list -- but this litter has not only Lean Mac (as sire) and similar breeding as Quick (full brother is dam's sire) but also has Sky Watch Radar in bloodline which my Maxx has on both sides of his pedigree -- so if I was able to get a female out of such a breeding and then breed to my Maxx, I believe this would make for a very interesting linebreeding

[5-Salt]

you right about hard to find a pedigree without it - my boy's dame is a Lean Mac Grandaughter

[luvmylabs]

It's really hard to argue with success. Lean Mac's children and grangchildren have done so well, it is a real temptation to breed back to him again and again. So far, he has shown no great health issues. A couple maybes but nothing concrete. Until a better stud comes along with such a proven record people are going to keep breeding to his progeny. Personally, I love his pups. Have a new grandson from him coming in Sept. Hoping for good things out of him.

Anne

[ducksoup]

Hard not to like Lean Mac -- and just about every pedigree has Lean Mac -- whether FT, HT, or just gundog nothing wrong with Lean Mac in background -- hard not to like, and hard to avoid

[franklauzon]

I find it strange when people advertise Lean Mac free pedigrees as a GREAT thing... I dunno but if I didn't have the top producing dog in my pedigree I'd be ho hum about no having it, not excited...

I understand that if you want to out-cross or something that makes the dog a good pick, but nothing to write home about...