Pedigree?

[Labber]

FTCH/AFTCH Gahonk’s Super Dee-Lab- R. Kalin


FTCH/AFTCH AFC Gahonks Mississauga Totem-Lab-D. Watts


Who can post a few generations of pedigree on these 2 legendary Canadian FT dogs.

Littermates?
Training history?

Were these trainers doing something different in their time to be so successful or were the dogs simply trained harder and more talented?
Anybody here see them run or have something interesting to tell?

They ran against eachother, and between them, they won a ton of ribbons.

[krakadawn]

FTCH/AFTCH Gahonk’s Super Dee-Lab- R. Kalin


FTCH/AFTCH AFC Gahonks Mississauga Totem-Lab-D. Watts


Who can post a few generations of pedigree on these 2 legendary Canadian FT dogs.

Littermates?
Training history?

Were these trainers doing something different in their time to be so successful or were the dogs simply trained harder and more talented?
Anybody here see them run or have something interesting to tell?

They ran against eachother, and between them, they won a ton of ribbons.

Scott,
I ran against both of these dogs-saw them many times and hunted with Totem quite a bit-I`ll share just a little bit.

Super Dee
-Dave Thompson trained and ran Dee Dee a lot
-out of Super Chief and Gahonk`s Dee Dee
_Dee threew several other FC and was a great brood bitch out of My Rebel
-Dee`s water blinds were hard to beat
-think she had around 300 AA points
-dam of Super Baron who won first Canadian Amateur Nat.

Totem
-out of FC AFC Blth`s Baron of Cavendish X FC AFC Gahonk`s Sassy Sioux
-Dave owned Baron and sold him to Cotton Pearshal at Nilo Farms
-Dave T. owned and trained Sassy and sold her to a US owner
-Sassy was out of Spring FGarm`s Lucky(Soupy`s brother and Miss Zulu of Upland Farm
-Baron out of FC Drake of Seabrook out of Nat. CH Stormy of Spirit Lake Gal

Dave Watts obtained Totem from a relative who had taken him as a pup. Dave got him at about 11months as he had sold Baron at that time. By the following year , Dave had made him the Canadian Derby Champion with 75 derby points. He also had an Open win on him as well-not bad for getting your pup at 11mos. with virtually no training. Totem was the most difficult dog to run against-superb marker, a thinker and could line like you wouldn`t believe. His best year in all age was 94 points which has been tied but not beaten.
He finished many Nationals but did not win any.In 1980 he and my dog-his son Raider were Father and son National finalists-there were few if any father-son combinations at that time finishing a National. He sired other FC`s like Bench and Super Baron as well. Sadly he was killed by a car at age 8 just north of Coburg when he was airing one night.

I would take a cloned copy of either of these two and I`m sure would make a helluva dog today to run.You can imagine running a young dog in Open trying to compete with the likes of these two every week-end-it was not easy. Totem won numerous Gold Whistles at the Sportsmanshow as well-this was at a time when you could expect numerous titled dogs competing.
Totem had a wonderful trailing nose-just like a hound-he also picked up decoys when we finished hunting!!
Jim

[Davadar]

http://www.huntinglabpedigree.com/pedigree.asp?id=2424

[Kevin Hannah]

FTCH/AFTCH AFC Gahonks Mississauga Totem-Lab-D. Watts

http://gooddoginfo.com/gdc/asp/viewpedigree.asp?DogNo=22469

Good dog info lists 15 titled offspring

[ducksoup]

Totem was a truly amazing animal to watch run. Especially for somebody just getting into FTs, as I was at the time. So was Dee Dee. They were the two dominant animals of their day. As Jim has already noted. And they were bred together a few times, with such results as Nilak Super Baron and Nilak Coriander. Totem won the Gold Whistle three or four times, and was one of the reasons I got interested in FTs.

[Lpgar]

Wasn't Gahonks Leave It to Jessie out of Dee?

[ducksoup]

Wasn't Gahonks Leave It to Jessie out of Dee?

Gahonk's Leave It To Jessie was out of Ironwood Tarnation and Nilak Coriander (who was out of Totem and Dee Dee) -- http://huntinglabpedigree.com/pedigree.asp?id=8083

[Kevin Hannah]

Wasn't Gahonks Leave It to Jessie out of Dee?


http://gooddoginfo.com/gdc/asp/viewpedigree.asp?DogNo=22461

[Kevin Hannah]

GAHONK'S MISSISSAUGA TOTEM X GAHONK'S SUPER DEE Produced:

CFC-CAFC NILAK AUTUMN MIST (BLK) F
AFC NILAK CAPITAL GAIN (BLK) F
NILAK CARIBOO EXPRESS (CAN) *** (BLK) M
CFC-CAFC NILAK CHRISTINA'S BLACK PEARL (BLK) F
FC-CFC-CAFC NILAK CORIANDER (BLK) F
NILAK MINI DEE (BLK) F
FC-AFC-CFC-CAFC NILAK NUTMEG (BLK) F
NILAK RAMBLER (BLK) F
NILAK SALLY STREAKER (CAN) (BLK) F
FC 1988 CNAFC-CFC NILAK SUPER BARON 81 CAN. JR CH. (BLK-BYC) M
CFC NILAK SUPER DANDEE *** (BLK) F
NILAK SWEET BABY JANE (CAN)*** (BLK-BYC) F
CFC-CAFC NILAK TRAC TWO HELL RAISER (CAN) *** (BLK) M
NILAK'S MICHAEL OF NETHERBY (CAN) (BLK) M
NILAK'S RE-RUN (CAN)*** (BLK)

[Labber]

Thanks for the reply's & pedigrees.
If you look back on Gahonk's Sassy Sioux, Freehaven Mucles is in there.
He was owned by James Lamb Free, the author of Training Your Retriever.

Can anyone post up the pedigree of FTCH/AFTCH Gahonk’s Super Dee?

[krakadawn]

Thanks for the reply's & pedigrees.
If you look back on Gahonk's Sassy Sioux, Freehaven Mucles is in there.
He was owned by James Lamb Free, the author of Training Your Retriever.

Can anyone post up the pedigree of FTCH/AFTCH Gahonk’s Super Dee?

Canvasback Dee was a grand daughter of Cork of Oakwood lane.I kept old Dee for quite some time years ago. Tom Maracle owned her but I ended up with her as we swapped dogs for a time. She was never campaigned but an excellent hunter and producer. She loved hunting squirrels!!

You can add the following to titled offspring of Totem:
Fc Aftch Bench of Gahonk(named after Johnny Bench)
Fc Aftch Raider of Gahonk
Above two were littermates out of Blyth`s Odile.
Bench was nicknamed `shake and bake` as he was born and dropped on the ground in March-Paul J.,the breeder put him in the oven to warm him up-he obviously made it.
Jim

[ducksoup]

Thanks for the reply's & pedigrees.
If you look back on Gahonk's Sassy Sioux, Freehaven Mucles is in there.
He was owned by James Lamb Free, the author of Training Your Retriever.

Can anyone post up the pedigree of FTCH/AFTCH Gahonk’s Super Dee?
Scott,
Freehaven Muscles is in a lot of Lab pedigrees -- he was directly in Super Chief's bloodline (Spring Farm's Lucky was full brother to Soupy) -- he was owned by James Lamb Free (hence "Freehaven") and is actually pictured in book's plates (at least in my edition)

Freehaven Muscles was bought by Cotton Pearshall for Nilo Farms at the same time as King Buck was bought by John Olin (of Nilo Farms fame and Winchester Firearms) -- Cotton thought Muscles was the better dog -- Buck ended winning Nationals but Muscles did prove to be better "producer"

Interesting to note the "linebreeding" involved in the Super Chief line -- both Freehaven Muscles and Cherokee Buck were out of Grangemead Precocious and Grangemead Sharon (Grangemead Precocious got his name by becoming a sire at very very young age -- quite young as I seem to recall and definitely well under a year)

It might be of interest to note Dee Dee (Gahonk's Super Dee) was related to Gahonk's Pow Wow (sire of Lawhorn's Cadillac Mack) -- out of same dam Canvasback Dee -- Pow Wow was full brother to Gahonk's Rebel Queen who was dam of Candlewood's Nellie-B-Good (out of breeding with Super Chief) -- Nellie was full sister to NFC Eurlydon and prominent in Candlewood bloodlines including Tanker and thus Lottie

Lastly Dave Watts learned a lot about training dogs from Bob Blyth (one of Ontario's first pros) -- eventually Dave went pro himself for a short while just after Totem was killed by a car -- he set up Cavendish Kennels (Cavendish as in Baron of Cavendish -- Totem's sire) -- Dan DeVos worked for Dave as a pro (about time he had titled Gahonk's Leave It To Jessie, before selling Jessie) -- believe that is where Dan met his wife Gloria

So interesting how history of Ont FTs has gone -- at one time there were a lot of "Totem" offspring running FTs in Ont so very big influence -- and also how Canadian bloodlines have influenced retriever game even before Lean Mac
(and very very obvious I am suffering from "cabin fever" -- maybe they should add a retriever section to Trivial Pursuit LOL LOL)