WCX -What's involved?

[duxbac]

I've never witnessed a WCX retrieving test and was just wondering what the difference was between a WCX and say a HRCH or MH test? Would I have to train for any differences?

[samgunn]

Ty should be able to do a wcx with his eyes closed and you handling him..lol

[Montauk]

WC- I -X is just another CKC game to play.

WC- Back to Back singles land & water, dogs on lead at line.
WCI- Off lead from holding blind, Doubles with and honor on land, doubles on water.
WCX- Off lead- walk up doubles, walk up honor, land blind, water double, water blind

[Jojoe]

This link spells out the requirements for all of the WC series

http://littlerivertollers.com/wcrules.html

[eden beardsall]

Jojoe
Next time you are at the farm ask one of us for a rule book for the WC&
WCI & WCX . Sorry to hear you can't get down for the Junior Handler Day.It should be fun. Be sure you keep the weekend open for "The Extreme Handlers Day". Don't even ask about the tests that are going to be set up. Especially the "Blind Blind ". Contact Anna for the details.

EB

[Jojoe]

"Blind Blind" - that describes how we look when we run a normal blind...
Looking forward to it.

[duxbac]

Sounds like WCX is a senior hunter or seasoned level test that you have to pass once to get a title. Is this a fair assessment?

And ya, Samgunn, I worried about Ty. He's not used to birds actually falling when the gun goes off after the last couple of times out.:cry_1:

[Anna Scott]

The working certificate tests are one time tests, unfortunately you have to do them consecutively so most dogs working at a finished level find the first one really easy.( You have to do all three)Wc single marks to 75 yds on land 40 yds on water. I've seen high fliers that can almost leap that far on water. The WCI has an honour on the land double again marks are up to 75 yds on land and 50 on water (one must land in cover) The WCX has a walking honour with land marks up to 100 yds and water up to 50. The land and water blinds are no longer than 50 yds. The key words here are UP TO. I"ve seen some pretty short tests.

Also Eden says she read that they are going to allow Airdales to run these tests. I'm waiting for her to show me this in print. The CKC seems to be slowly going out of its mind.

[eden beardsall]

The September issue of the CKC Magazine ( Official Section) Page 26 Of the Minutes of the last CKC Board meeting . It was moved by Mr Hodgkinson , That the Working Certificate Test be amended by adding a new section effective January 1, 2008, to read as follows
I Interpretations
1.1 Definitions
For the purpose of these rules and regulations , the following interpretations shall apply:

ADD NEW
" all eligible breeds" means all breeds of Retriever, Irish Water Spaniels, Poodles and Airdale Terriers"

> MOTION carried :der:


I am not sure how many Terrier owners are pushing for this but it is a done deal .Will the next move be to get them in Hunt Tests and Field Trials .

I wonder how the breeders will feel when there is a push to have them moved in the show ring from the Terrier Group to the Sporting Dog Group . They really can't have it both ways.

[sterregold]

Well, being a gundog was one of their original uses. They were supposed to be an all-purpose farm dog: ridding the farm of vermin, guarding the place, and picking up game for their owner. They actually have had a test of their own they do at specialties, but I don't think it could earn them a title that went on their CKC papers; so this was a move to get them more opportunities to be involved and earn titles. I have a friend who breeds Airedales who is quite interested in what we do with retrievers because she has tried her dogs in their tests. That said, I don't think you'll see a lot of them in the WC's, or that you'll ever see them move from the Terrier group either. (That precedent is already set with the poodles who are in the Non-sporting Group.)

[Tollergirl]

All I know is I sure as hell don't want to be running my smaller dogs while a big Airedale is doing an honour. I've had bad enough experiences with them going after my dogs during stays in obedience. I think it's ridiculous, where do we draw the line? Akitas used to be used as bird dogs too, are we going to let them run WC tests as well?

[just chessies]

Money, money, money more for the CKC. thats what it looks like to me I think they are on a slippery slope and you better be careful where you land. I think the Airdales should stay in the Terrier Group and leave the Sporting Group alone:rolleyes: :frown: just my 2 cents worth Marvin Calhoun

[duxbac]

Thanks everyone!!! Sounds like you would have to complete and pass a WC, and WCI to be allowed to enter the WCX. From your dialoge it sounds like the composition of the test is a repeat of elements advanced retrievers already train for. Now I just have to fill out an entry form and ............:rockon:

[Jojoe]

I came across this chart in my travels...just FYI...
It compares the WC to the CKC hunt tests to the NAHRA hunt tests.
It is in the attached zip file and is in PDF format.

It has this disclaimer at the bottom of the form as well as the acknowledgment of the creator of the chart - thanks Mary

To be used as a guide only, please consult the appropriate rule book for detailed rules - Compiled by Mary Shillabeer